overloaded trucks, Over GVW
overloaded trucks, Over GVW
ronflys701 |
Feb 8 2014, 01:30 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 7-February 14 Member No.: 7,335 Favorite Truck Camper(s): treck?? Type and Brand of Truck(s) Owned: 1998 dodge 2500 diesel Type of Tiedowns used: Pockets only Truck and Camper Setup: 2500 dodge diesel 1998 2 wheel drive nothing added,,completely stock truck and bare camper furnace, no hot water...3 way fridge..and propane stove,,,, theats it and it is standard transmission and love the fact I can park anywhere in any parking spot u can park a car,,,,no problems?? |
I have a 2500 1998 Dodge Diesel 12v and my gvw is 8800lbs I bought an older as light as possible camper no hot water or built in shower just furnace,stove and regular sized bed ...not a Queen as most have now and Im almost over the weight for my truck ...my question is 99% of every truck camper has put the weight over the limit of the gvw when loaded....and I have talked to many eye to eye in the campgrounds so why is everyone crying about gvw you are almost all over the limit when fully loaded unless you buy a 550 ford or equivalent. All the swaybars lifts airbags may help control the load but nothing can change the max weight for the truck...Naturally Im talking about hard sided and not popups??
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Electrojake |
Jun 15 2015, 07:47 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 13-June 15 From: Not so new Jersey Member No.: 8,215 Favorite Truck Camper(s): Northstar Type and Brand of Truck(s) Owned: 2016 RAM 3500 Type of Tiedowns used: TorkLift & FastGuns Truck and Camper Setup: See Signature |
QUOTE(ronflys701 @ Feb 8 2014, 01:30 PM) I have a 2500 1998 Dodge Diesel 12v and my gvw is 8800lbs I bought an older as light as possible camper no hot water or built in shower just furnace,stove and regular sized bed ...not a Queen as most have now and Im almost over the weight for my truck ...my question is 99% of every truck camper has put the weight over the limit of the gvw when loaded....and I have talked to many eye to eye in the campgrounds so why is everyone crying about gvw you are almostĀ allĀ over the limit when fully loaded unless you buy a 550 ford or equivalent. All the swaybars lifts airbags may help control the load but nothing can change the max weight for the truck... Naturally Im talking about hard sided and not popups?? This original post is nothing short of fascinating! Of all the RV types; TT, 5er, hybrid, etc... the Truck-camper setup is by far the most misapplied. And it all goes back to GVWR issues. In researching this, (as did ronflys701) found that the majority of truck-campers are indeed over their legal registered weight, or so darn close that it is not really a practical setup. Any unit that is equipped with a wet-bath and reasonably sized fresh-tank is most likely going to be well over the capacity of any "non-dually" truck that would be foolhardy enough to carry it. Add a slide, A/C unit, generator, camping gear etc... and to keep it DOT legal you'd need a military deuce & a half to move it! I keep looking at the loaded/wet-weights of these truck-campers, and then checking the load capacities of GM, RAM, & Ford, non-dually heavy duty trucks and the math just doesn't work. I'm thinking maybe your F-250 should really be an F-650? Just saying. Here: An F-650 properly loaded... And here: ... Not quite what I would call a "comfortable" lading -------------------- 2016 RAM Longhorn 3500 Cummins/AISIN 4x4
2018 Northstar Arrow-U Truck-Camper |
17 Oaks |
Jun 27 2015, 10:31 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 27-June 15 Member No.: 8,291 Favorite Truck Camper(s): Arctic Fox 1150 Type and Brand of Truck(s) Owned: '15 F 350 Dually 4x4 CC/LB King Ranch Type of Tiedowns used: Torklift Truck and Camper Setup: '15 F350, Rancho 9000XLS, StableLoads, Hellwig Big sway bar |
QUOTE(Electrojake @ Jun 15 2015, 07:47 PM) This original post is nothing short of fascinating! Of all the RV types; TT, 5er, hybrid, etc... the Truck-camper setup is by far the most misapplied. And it all goes back to GVWR issues. In researching this, (as did ronflys701) found that the majority of truck-campers are indeed over their legal registered weight, or so darn close that it is not really a practical setup. Any unit that is equipped with a wet-bath and reasonably sized fresh-tank is most likely going to be well over the capacity of any "non-dually" truck that would be foolhardy enough to carry it. Add a slide, A/C unit, generator, camping gear etc... and to keep it DOT legal you'd need a military deuce & a half to move it! I keep looking at the loaded/wet-weights of these truck-campers, and then checking the load capacities of GM, RAM, & Ford, non-dually heavy duty trucks and the math just doesn't work. I'm thinking maybe your F-250 should really be an F-650? Just saying. Here: An F-650 properly loaded... And here: ... Not quite what I would call a "comfortable" lading I tend to agree with your comments. That said here is (maybe) some insight into this hazy crazy world. Auto mfg build inside of a set of parameters, how far inside is closely guarded. They do thing on many components. Not sure of the current offering on some of the HiPerf motors being dropped into the Chevy line, but my 427-435 hp came with a 5 year 100,000k mi warranty on the entire drive train, I had 169,000 mi when a guy ran a stop sign and totaled it out. This applies to trucks as well, especially those mfg for for dual purpose as in general use and commercial business use. Take away: many are at or near the recommended gross weight, while I am not sure of the margin it would be my guess based upon discussions I have had with engineers that work at the major auto mfg that a 10% margin would be realistic if not more. |
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