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dubob
post Oct 8 2014, 03:54 PM
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Type and Brand of Truck(s) Owned: 2010 Chevy 2500HD, Ext Cab, 6.0L
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Truck and Camper Setup: TC pulled behind the truck on a gooseneck trailer



This idea has been floating around in my head for over a year now. When I saw what a couple of others had already done with this concept, I decided it was time to make it happen. There are still some small enhancements left to do like putting on storage containers, but it is essentially ready to use and I plan on doing just that this coming week as we are going to the Huntsman World Senior Games on Saturday and will be using the new unit until the following Friday at Sand Hollow State Park near Hurricane, UT.

I went to Big Bubba Trailers in Ogden, UT and asked them to custom build a gooseneck trailer to carry my Lance 992 TC. They didn??¢â??¬â??¢t see a problem since they had already done such a project for Big Bubba himself. It took about 3 weeks to construct and finish and they were 4 days past the original requested finish date of last week Friday. Partly my fault as I wasn??¢â??¬â??¢t real clear about what I wanted with regard to the TC plug wiring and connection to the truck. That matters little at this point, because it??¢â??¬â??¢s done and sitting in my driveway at home in time to load up for departure on Saturday morning. And don??¢â??¬â??¢t cha want to see the mostly finished result?

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Front storage box area
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Curb side storage box area
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Street side storage box area
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Right now I??¢â??¬â??¢m thinking about getting some diamond plate boxes custom built locally to fit the three storage box areas show above. They will just be 16??¢â??¬???? X 16??¢â??¬???? X 36??¢â??¬???? boxes on the two side areas with two each boxes on either side. I??¢â??¬â??¢m not sure yet about what I??¢â??¬â??¢ll do with the front area. I??¢â??¬â??¢ll have to think on that a bit more.

Now for some weight information. My 2010 Silverado 2500HD w/ the 6.0L engine weighed in at 6400 lbs at a local CAT Scale. The front axle was 3600 lbs and the rear was 2800. The weights could be off by almost 10 pounds because none of the weights every show a tens digit other than zero. With the trailer/TC attached to the truck, the front axle is still reading 3600 lbs. The rear axle went up to 3240 lbs which gives me a king pin weight of 440 lbs sitting on the rear axle.

The specs for my truck are as follows: GVWR = 9200; GAWR FT = 4200; & GAWR RR = 6084. I??¢â??¬â??¢m nowhere near exceeding ANY weight ratings for this truck. When the TC sat in my 2008 1-ton dually, the rig came in at 13,200 which was 1800 over the GVWR of 11,400. However, I did NOT exceed either GAWR on that truck ??¢â??¬â???? go figure.

The trailer axles weighed in at 6840 lbs. Adding the king pin weight of 440 to that will give me a combined trailer/TC total weight of 7280 and the GVWR for the trailer is 10,000. So far we??¢â??¬â??¢re good to go.

My truck with the optional 4.10 rear end it has gives me a maximum trailer weight I can pull of 12,300 lbs. When I hook up my 16' Tracker boat (2,400 lbs) to the TC Trailer, I??¢â??¬â??¢ll be pulling just under 10,000 lbs down the highway. That leaves me about 2300 pounds plus of cargo (payload) I can put in the truck and my bride and I don??¢â??¬â??¢t even come close to weighing that much. I??¢â??¬â??¢ll have some pictures of the complete triple-tow setup in a couple of days.

I??¢â??¬â??¢m not expecting great fuel economy with this set-up, but I do expect that I shouldn??¢â??¬â??¢t have any undue mechanical stress like I was experiencing with the TC sitting in my previous dually. Now, it??¢â??¬â??¢s time to bring on the fun. Y??¢â??¬â??¢all be safe out there.
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post Oct 8 2014, 07:47 PM
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Well Bob, I see that you finally done it! smile.gif

Nice looking trailer!... Question: why not get a longer trailer to haul stuff on the back ?

I've seen some haul jeeps, ATV's etc... I also noticed you have a hitch on the back!

I wonder if the trailer will sway since its short ?... The camper looks nice on there too!... Let us know how it rides and how you like it when you go on a trip!.... Never know, I may do the same some day! (just kidding) biggrin.gif

Thanks for posting the pictures!


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post Oct 9 2014, 07:53 AM
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Truck and Camper Setup: TC pulled behind the truck on a gooseneck trailer



QUOTE(KY_Campers @ Oct 8 2014, 06:47 PM)
Question: why not get a longer trailer to haul stuff on the back?
Originally I WAS thinking about getting a longer trailer and just haul some things on it behind the TC. However, most of my fishing trips are to Utah State Parks and Federal campgrounds. There are very few of those facilities in the country, let alone in Utah, that offer 70 foot pull through sites. The reality is that I have to be able to squeeze the TC, the boat, and the truck into a 40 foot (or less), single wide site without parking on the grass. The other consideration was the total overall length of all three units.

Special permits are required in Utah if you are over 65 feet. Some other western states allow 70 and even 75 feet, but at home it's 65. If all I wanted to do was haul a couple of quads, I think I would have gone with the longer trailer. But throwing a 20 foot or longer boat package into the mix makes the short trailer a better fit - for me.


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post Oct 10 2014, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(dubob @ Oct 9 2014, 08:53 AM)
Originally I WAS thinking about getting a longer trailer and just haul some things on it behind the TC.  However, most of my fishing trips are to Utah State Parks and Federal campgrounds.  There are very few of those facilities in the country, let alone in Utah, that offer 70 foot pull through sites.  The reality is that I have to be able to squeeze the TC, the boat, and the truck into a 40 foot (or less), single wide site without parking on the grass.  The other consideration was the total overall length of all three units.

Special permits are required in Utah if you are over 65 feet.  Some other western states allow 70 and even 75 feet, but at home it's 65.  If all I wanted to do was haul a couple of quads, I think I would have gone with the longer trailer.  But throwing a 20 foot or longer boat package into the mix makes the short trailer a better fit - for me.

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OK Bob, I understand now!... I forgot about your Tracker boat... Sorry!

We have a Federal campground in KY and we camp there the most and really like it!... And yeah, at this campground, they won't let you get on the grass!

We always get a single site and the driveway is short on some sites... I always unload my camper and I have to find a site with a long blacktop driveway to fit the camper, pontoon and truck!

Keep us posted on your ''new setup''! smile.gif


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