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Torsten
post Feb 26 2017, 05:10 AM
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Type and Brand of Truck(s) Owned: 1985 Ford F250 Diesel
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Truck and Camper Setup: 1985 Ford F250 Diesel with Lance Model 780



Hi,

here are some Pictures from my Summer project, Restauration of a 1985 Lance:

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has some Water damage, but i hope i get it done well!

regards

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post Feb 26 2017, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(Torsten @ Feb 26 2017, 06:10 AM)
Hi,

here are some Pictures from my Summer project, Restauration of a 1985 Lance:

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has some Water damage, but i hope i get it done well!

regards

Torsten
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Man, a lot of work. I have seen so many folks run out of energy on restoration projects as they take a long time and a lot of commitment.
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18derrick
post Apr 6 2017, 02:08 PM
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You have the same rot/water damage at the front drivers eyelet. Have you started your repair? I'm starting mine Monday.
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Torsten
post Apr 16 2017, 03:17 PM
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Type and Brand of Truck(s) Owned: 1985 Ford F250 Diesel
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Truck and Camper Setup: 1985 Ford F250 Diesel with Lance Model 780



Hi,

i have remove the Mattress yesterday, under it i foud a lot o Moisture traces. So i remove the rotten wood and find a older repair.

Someone put a weldet Steelframe in but they dont change the also rotten sidewalls and the Steelframe ist not srewed to the Frame. So its a stupid bullshit repair, i will take some Pictures.

My plan is to remove the planking and restore the complete front, wood be nice to see pictures from you, maybe we can help eachother.

This Program makes Pictures here realy easy: http://picr.de/ works great without registration, than only copy and pace!

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SidecarFlip
post Apr 16 2017, 07:20 PM
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Torsten, you need to pick up mine... No issues like that...lol

You and I both know, when there is a soft tie down, chances are it's rotted wood on the sill plate above it.
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Torsten
post Apr 17 2017, 02:33 AM
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Truck and Camper Setup: 1985 Ford F250 Diesel with Lance Model 780



Hi Flip,

that not that easy, because the one from you is for my son wink.gif , so the old guy must show what repairworks he can do smile.gif

but hey! the Camper was for free, i like woodwork, wood is not that expensive and everything work on this unit.

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Torsten
post Apr 18 2017, 02:22 PM
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Hi,
here are the Pictures from the Waterdamage and the older repairs that i found in this Area

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This is the old wood that i cut out

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you can see the Steelframe, but it only lays on the old wood on the botom its not srewed in any points to the wooden frame

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Torsten
post Jul 31 2017, 03:07 PM
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Hi,
after a long time waiting for dry and warm weather (we never had so mutch rain in the Summer like this year) dry.gif

i start do disample the Lance, i remove all the Aluminiumplanking and find some damage and rotten wood sad.gif now i can start to make a plan what wood must be replace and how i can do it.

The front of the Camper comes down around two inch in case of the stupid repair that was made years ago in a RV Shop in Arizona, i hope they go bust with there business, because they do not know what they do, and they damage more as they repair.

But the Homepage on the older invoice (preowner paid $2000 for this repair) is not longer online, so i hope they dont damage any Camper or RV in the future! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

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Torsten
post Jul 31 2017, 03:08 PM
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here are the rest of Todays Pictures

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post Jul 31 2017, 07:38 PM
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Not a lot of damage. A few more hours, a few dollars for wood, and many hours of cleaning and you've got a really nice Lance!

Get rid of all that OSB. Amazing Lance used that junk. Replace it with CDX treated with Marine Spar and you'll never regret it.

Enjoy your project and the great outdoors!
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post Jul 31 2017, 09:58 PM
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Better you than me....
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Torsten
post Aug 1 2017, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(DWJoyce @ Aug 1 2017, 01:38 AM)
Not a lot of damage. A few more hours, a few dollars for wood, and many hours of cleaning and you've got a really nice Lance!

Get rid of all that OSB. Amazing Lance used that junk. Replace it with CDX treated with Marine Spar and you'll never regret it.

Enjoy your project and the great outdoors!
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Hi DW,

not Lance use the OSB, that was an RV Shop that repairs the Camper with this Junk!

Flip you are right wink.gif

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post Aug 1 2017, 07:44 AM
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OSB is terrible stuff. Easy to work with, contains chemicals know to cause cancer in lab animals, very prone to water uptake and rot.

Torsten, I'd yank all that spun glass wool water sponge) insulation and replace it with block foam insulation. Easier to work with, no itching and better R value.

Better off with an aluminium skinned camper. Filon skinned campers are 10 times harder to work on because removal and replacement of the Filon (fiberglass sheeting) entails a complete removal of a side (and complete replacement) and Filon is bonded to the inner substrate, a real PITA to repair.
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Torsten
post Aug 17 2017, 01:33 PM
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Hi Flip,

you are right i will get all the USB out doing the restaurtion!

today it was dry so i start to remove the Planking from the Underside of the Cabover, now i can see the resuld of the stupid repairs in that area:

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Did anyone know how the wooden strukture of the Caboverbottom looks in original shape?


Regards from Germany

Torsten
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